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Posted on February 9, 2011 2:53 PM
John, I would buy into that theory, except I don't want to be responsible for swaying other people to my way of thinking.
Tom Wms. |
February 9, 2011 5:09 PM
February 9, 2011 17:09
I've heard/read that quote before but didn't catch that it was old Sigmund. It would make sense that he would be the one to say it though.
Going to check further and see what I come up with.
February 9, 2011 9:08 PM
February 9, 2011 21:08
Clinton could have made a lot of that cigar.
February 9, 2011 9:27 PM
February 9, 2011 21:27
COWBOY et al:
Off hand, I've seen very similar quotations attributed to Edward Gibbon & George Bernard Shaw. This is also pretty much the pragmatic application of Sartre's central thesis...
...then there are two books called A Nation of Sheep, one from the early 60s by William J. Lederer (first mentioned here by GF), another more recent by Judge Andrew Napolitano...
...it's a recurring theme on the nature of man & one of the two major forces (social entropy, the other being elitist Machiavellianism) that drag societies down.
Savoir-Faire is everywhere!
February 9, 2011 10:45 PM
February 9, 2011 22:45
We just want the freedom to be irresponsible.
February 10, 2011 1:43 AM
February 10, 2011 01:43
From that conclusion, Sigmund set out creating a psycho-therapy based on comforting people trying to evade all kinds of responsibility, instead blaming all their problems on sex and poo...
Martin Lundqvist |
February 10, 2011 10:33 AM
February 10, 2011 10:33
Interesting thing about Freud. He was obsessed with being recognized & lauded both in the "scientific" community & by the public at large.
His first hypothesis of the human psyche was pretty much correct, but it was summarily dismissed; generally speaking, people didn't even want to hear it because it put the responsibility for one's life squarely on the individual. When people working in brain-oriented sciences & medicine (aside from a few nut- & corn-jobs) refer to Freudian psychology, they are referring to his first hypothesis. You are correct to note that this is what Freud originally set out to do, but his lust for fame knocked him off course.
He came up with the sex/father/mother/poo thing as his second hypothesis, which caught on like wildfire in part because it was scandalous, & in part because people could scapegoat their parents, society, government, & a host of other things for their shortcomings--which in turn [they believed] relieved them from the responsibility of improving themselves & making their own lives better.
Freud fiercely defended his second hypothesis because it brought him acclaim, & he was more concerned with fame & its trappings than he was with promoting correct ideas.
He'd have made one heck of a politician (& he helped demonstrate how science can be as empirically bankrupt & philosophically compromised as any ideology or belief system in the minds of the wrong people).
February 11, 2011 12:19 AM
February 11, 2011 00:19
I almost missed it:
Psychology is less about comforting people than it is about agitating them to make positive change.
February 11, 2011 12:22 AM
February 11, 2011 00:22
"He'd have made one heck of a politician"
How many times have you heard a politician say "It's not my fault!"
Or the other version....
"I inherited this mess."
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